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Bolton’s Chairman will back Bury’s bid to return to League 2 – ‘Good luck…there is some very bitter teams in the football league’

The Bolton News has reported how the new Bolton Wanderers owner, Sharon Brittan has said she would back Bury’s campaign to return to League Two. The Football Manc Cave look at your reactions.

There’s a campaign in full swing for Bury to return to League Two instead of starting again from Non-League. The EFL clubs will meet on September the 26th to discuss the matter and Bolton owner, Brittan has confirmed that she would want to back this idea as long as Bury have a stable footing.

A lot of other fans have been saying that it wouldn’t be fair on clubs trying to gain promotion and I completely understand that side to the argument. However, the EFL didn’t do a lot to help Bury in their situation and it’s not the fans, players, staff or community’s fault.

Bolton and Bury’s situations were running at exactly the same time although they had very different outcomes. It’s nice to see that Sharon is completely behind Bury as she understands the struggles she’s faced. I’m glad and proud that she will be supporting them in this vote.

Here’s what you thought…

Why Bolton’s no fixture last weekend is a sad time for football

Wondered why Bolton Wanderers never played a game this weekend? It’s because they were meant to be playing Bury. In a sad time for the game, The Football Manc Cave reflects.

A lot of football fans haven’t had a game to watch this week because it’s the international break. Bolton fans have had no game because the team they were meant to be playing were expelled from the league.

Bury fans haven’t got any games to watch.

It’s about time the people in power started to look at struggling clubs a little closer, and help them instead of putting them in situations like this.

Just imagine for one minute, the EFL would have given Bury more help and extended their time to try and sort the issues they were having. I know a lot of people are now going to say that they had enough time. However, in my opinion, with the supposed new bids on the deadline day, the EFL should have seen that as a possible way to save the club so should have helped.

If they would have and a deal could have been made. Just imagine Bolton vs Bury. The money that that game would have brought in because both sets of fans want their clubs to survive, the attention the game would have got and what it would have meant for either team to score, gain any points or most importantly, win.

Instead, the EFL removes Bury from the league. The fact that there was no fixture for Bolton this weekend, just made me realise how lucky I am to be a Bolton fan. We actually have games to watch now thanks to Football Ventures. It doesn’t matter whether we win or lose, we have football to watch.

Sad times for Bury

It’s a sad time for the game and I really do hope that Bury can solve the issues they have and work their way back into the leagues. It’s not fair, football is all about money and there’s so much of it, so why are Bury facing these issues? Because the EFL let a man, sorry, a coward, take over a club, not have the funds, not willing to sort a sale out and then the EFL end up expelling them from the league.

Maybe they should have run tests more accurately, and actually done a background test on Dale before just shattering the fans, staff and players.

I hope that once we are up and running properly, we could maybe give Bury fans free entry so that they’ve got some football to watch. If not that, then I really do think we should have some sort of game that raises money for Bury. Football fans that are laughing, mocking or saying that Bury deserves this in any way, I really hope that your club never has to go through what they have – because it’s heartbreaking.

Bury will not be the last time expelled from the EFL, here’s why…

Bury were expelled from the EFL earlier this week, following their takeover fallen through. The club had unpaid debts, and through poor ownership, were not able to pay them.

Unfortunately, this won’t be the last. I expect a spate of clubs to struggle in the coming years, why?

Getting new owners, is purely pot luck. Previous Wigan owner Dave Whelan sold the club to IEC. I wasn’t worried because I knew he wouldn’t see us sold down the river to the first potential buyer. He always wanted to sell to an ambitious consortium, that would have the money to see our progress, and hopefully reach the Premier League again.

The EFL simply need to change their criteria and background checks when allowing new owners to buy football clubs. Steve Dale should never have been allowed to buy Bury. He had no previous experience of running a football club, has never visited the town, refused to pay staff and wouldn’t accept an offer that would’ve kept the club going. Disgraceful.

The transfer market is just ridiculously inflated, which is forcing clubs to spend more they can afford, to stay in their respective division. They are gambling with millions of pounds, if the gamble goes wrong they suddenly find themselves in debt, struggling to run the club and pay staff, then it just spirals from there.

The gap in revenue between Premier League clubs and EFL clubs is astronomical. Man United was paying Alexis Sanchez up to £500,000 a week, while Bury needed £2.7 million to survive. That’s not right. I’m not saying United should’ve bailed them out, as I’m sure that’s not legal or would happen in other industries, but surely the EFL could fund these smaller clubs or put a cap on wages to minimise the ever-growing money gap.

From a Wigan Athletic fan to Bury fans

What a sad day for English football and the town of Bury, after The Shakers were expelled from the EFL following unpaid debts and poor ownership.

Bury was founded in 1885, 124 years of history, gone. Being a Wigan fan, it’s frightening. Our town isn’t much bigger than Bury, us, Bolton, Blackburn, Rochdale and Oldham – we’re all in the same boat.

Forget football for a second, their’s people’s jobs at stake. People that have mortgages, bills like all of us, and are relying on Bury FC for them jobs. It puts life into perspective, real working-class people need the club to live, not to just support on a Saturday afternoon.

The EFL is to blame. Steve Dale isn’t fit to run a sandwich shop, never mind a football club. He has killed that club and area, single-handedly and doesn’t sound in the slightest bit bothered. How he passed all of the checks and proved himself fit to run a football club, I will never know.

The whole town will be hurting for a long time, people will suffer, businesses and shops too. It’s the heart and soul of a working-class town. On a Saturday, it’s match day. People go to the pub before and after, pop into the newsagents for a paper on the way, buy a pie from the local butchers. The whole area suffers.

A team is for life

Fans have supported that club for life. Looked forward to going every week. All gone because of one man. Frightening and upsetting. Being a Wigan fan, I’m just grateful we have a club. I couldn’t imagine not having a side to support, they are my life, I think about the club every day. I’ve met friends for life and made memories forever following Wigan.

My thoughts go out to everyone who ever supported Bury, and I hope the local businesses and people rally to bring success and happiness back to the town.

Bury fans must try and envisage a future, no matter how difficult that may feel

It would be too easy to join the queue of people offering their condolences to Bury fans following their expulsion from the EFL this week. Instead, what is needed is a plan for the future, not just for Bury FC but for all the clubs who might find themselves in the same situation.

There was almost an inevitability to Bury’s expulsion from the league and Bolton’s extension of their extension. I don’t wish to suggest that Bolton were in a less perilous state than Bury, but if both clubs had been treated the same by the EFL and Bury had been allowed to play their fixtures. The situation might have panned out differently.

The people at the EFL meeting that took place after the 5pm deadline, must surely have been aware of the enormity of expelling Bolton Wanderers from the league given their rich history and long membership of English football.

That does not mean that losing Bury might soon be forgotten. However, there is a danger that the impact on the game may be less, given that the club will always be looked upon as a minor side who spent most of their time in the lower divisions.

Bury’s due diligence

It is possible that the EFL may want to see the back of this episode quickly and sweep the whole debacle under the carpet. Therefore, if there is one thing Bury fans can do, it is to keep the club in the limelight and demand an inquiry into how Steve Dale was allowed to pass a test of due diligence.

Consequently, it is imperative that Bury fans dust themselves off and plan for the future as soon as possible, no matter how difficult that might seem at present. There is a great deal of vitriol aimed at Dale on social media but that needs to be abandoned. The Poundland tycoon with his scant regard for the local community and the livelihoods of his employees, cannot harm the people of Bury any more. Forget him and hope that his long-overdue date in the dock is just around the corner.

Other clubs have started from scratch again and prospered – there is no reason why Bury can’t. Football has long been called The People’s Game. It’s time we took it back.

Football may soon be awash with Bury’s 11th-hour deadline

Football fans should be worried about the future of the game. If they’re not, they should have a pretty good excuse why and be prepared to subject themselves to a fit and proper examination of their mental state.

Bury fans have already subjected themselves to such scrutiny and they won’t want to relive the final hour of Friday 23rd August in a hurry for fear of tipping themselves into madness.

As the minutes ticked by to the EFL’s 11.59 pm deadline, social media appeared to be adding insults to injury. First claiming that Bury had been expelled from the football league and then reporting an 11th-hour reprieve.

None of this did anything for Bury fans who were hoping for a decent nights sleep for the first time in months, as the EFL retired to consider the latest position and extend the agony longer.

You have to wonder how a club like Bury can survive two World Wars, the depression and years of decline in the North of England and yet face extinction due to a man who bought the club for a pound.

Give the game back to the working class

The simple answer is that the game was generally in good hands when it was solely watched by the working class. It only seems to have gone downhill since the people with money came sniffing around the dressing room doors.

There will be other anxious fans watching the situation closely given that the list of owners with financial troubles or questionable agendas grows longer every day.

It is how the EFL deals with the situation which will decide how future catastrophes of this nature pan out. Unquestionably they have the power to avoid this happening anywhere again, but their record in implementing due diligence checks is flawed and in need of a complete overhaul.

Undoubtedly there are clubs who are hanging on by their fingernails to avoid being the next ones facing a winding-up order but as with Bury, success on the field tends to hand supporters a set of blinkers. They are hardly likely to demand to see the accounts if their side is riding high in the table, and booking an open-top bus for the first week in May.

The situation at Bury won’t change anything however as owners may feel that they can deal with the EFL’s due diligence checks with ease. If Steve Dale can and the fans will continue to have tunnel vision as long as the ball is still flying into the net.

Only when we have lost clubs like Bury and Bolton, are people likely to take notice of the crisis in the game but by then it may be too late.

‘Bought it for 1 quid, ruined it and now wants everyone else to bail him out’ Twitter reaction to Steve Dale asking for 2.7m from Bury fans and businesses by TONIGHT

From one extreme to another. How can one man destroy a football club like this? According to Talksport Bury owner Steve Dale, is now asking fans and local businesses to find £2.7 million by TONIGHT, to avoid the club from EFL expulsion. Extraordinary.

Bury have until midnight tonight, to agree to a deal with a new owner, otherwise, the club will be expelled. The Shakers are yet to play a match this season, after having their first six league fixtures cancelled.

Let’s see how Bury fans reacted to this shocking request…

‘Tell the fans the truth, not give them false hope’ Bury fans clock watching as the second’s tick by

Son of former Manchester United keeper, Joe Sealey insists “I am 100% interested in buying the club.”

The Shakers have just two days to save their place in League One, with the EFL set to decide their fate on Friday.

They have had to pull out of six games already this season, following Tuesday’s postponement vs Tranmere Rovers, and Steve Dale seems to have zero intentions of trying to sell the club.

Let’s have a look at how Bury fans reacted to the news that Sealey is interested in buying The Shakers…

Great Gesture: Bury old boys look to help the club

As Bury’s ongoing problems with their owner and financial situation continue, ex Bury player, Gareth Seddon is trying to take matters into his own hands.

Gareth Seddon is a striker who played for Bury back in 2001 until 2004. He also spent time at Salford, Fleetwood and Halifax, the list goes on. He wants to try and find a solution for the fans by getting ex-players to fulfil the fixtures Bury have until the problems are sorted.

He tweeted:

I think this is a great idea and while it’s frustrating that the problems with Bury have gone on this long, it’s nice to see people trying to come up with ideas. However, the EFL wouldn’t allow this as they won’t accept players signing on to play, whether it is free or not because of the debts and other things that people probably don’t get to see. The players that are at the club that I got to see in pre-season are actually a great bunch and they want to play, they’re just not allowed.

There’s also more to it, like paying for police and ambulances that need to appear for health and safety. If there was a way around this then it would be a brilliant idea, if the EFL had stricter rules on the people that were allowed to own football clubs, then Bury probably wouldn’t be in this mess.

Here are your reactions to the tweet:

‘Steve Dale you have ripped the heart and soul out of a community’ Bury FC face their biggest week in history

The Football Manc Cave is taking a look at your reactions to Bury with their current situation.

It’s no secret by now that Bury is in trouble. They’ve had no league games go ahead yet because of problems behind the scenes. We have been reporting all summer of the ongoings at the club, and I can’t believe we are still seeing them in such a bad situation.

This week, club owner Steve Dale has 3 deadlines:

Steve Dale has had 8 months to sort this mess. It now comes down to days. I really feel for not only the members of staff, the squad, coaches and management but mainly the fans. Their club could be no more and it isn’t their fault. It’s about time the EFL stopped allowing people to take over football clubs when they can’t fully afford to.

Reviews of owners should be put in place more often, to see if they can still afford what they set out to do. So that clubs don’t end up in these horrible situations.

Here are some more opinions and news coming from the club…

This is worth a watch…

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