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Bolton’s Chairman will back Bury’s bid to return to League 2 – ‘Good luck…there is some very bitter teams in the football league’

The Bolton News has reported how the new Bolton Wanderers owner, Sharon Brittan has said she would back Bury’s campaign to return to League Two. The Football Manc Cave look at your reactions.

There’s a campaign in full swing for Bury to return to League Two instead of starting again from Non-League. The EFL clubs will meet on September the 26th to discuss the matter and Bolton owner, Brittan has confirmed that she would want to back this idea as long as Bury have a stable footing.

A lot of other fans have been saying that it wouldn’t be fair on clubs trying to gain promotion and I completely understand that side to the argument. However, the EFL didn’t do a lot to help Bury in their situation and it’s not the fans, players, staff or community’s fault.

Bolton and Bury’s situations were running at exactly the same time although they had very different outcomes. It’s nice to see that Sharon is completely behind Bury as she understands the struggles she’s faced. I’m glad and proud that she will be supporting them in this vote.

Here’s what you thought…

Why Bolton’s no fixture last weekend is a sad time for football

Wondered why Bolton Wanderers never played a game this weekend? It’s because they were meant to be playing Bury. In a sad time for the game, The Football Manc Cave reflects.

A lot of football fans haven’t had a game to watch this week because it’s the international break. Bolton fans have had no game because the team they were meant to be playing were expelled from the league.

Bury fans haven’t got any games to watch.

It’s about time the people in power started to look at struggling clubs a little closer, and help them instead of putting them in situations like this.

Just imagine for one minute, the EFL would have given Bury more help and extended their time to try and sort the issues they were having. I know a lot of people are now going to say that they had enough time. However, in my opinion, with the supposed new bids on the deadline day, the EFL should have seen that as a possible way to save the club so should have helped.

If they would have and a deal could have been made. Just imagine Bolton vs Bury. The money that that game would have brought in because both sets of fans want their clubs to survive, the attention the game would have got and what it would have meant for either team to score, gain any points or most importantly, win.

Instead, the EFL removes Bury from the league. The fact that there was no fixture for Bolton this weekend, just made me realise how lucky I am to be a Bolton fan. We actually have games to watch now thanks to Football Ventures. It doesn’t matter whether we win or lose, we have football to watch.

Sad times for Bury

It’s a sad time for the game and I really do hope that Bury can solve the issues they have and work their way back into the leagues. It’s not fair, football is all about money and there’s so much of it, so why are Bury facing these issues? Because the EFL let a man, sorry, a coward, take over a club, not have the funds, not willing to sort a sale out and then the EFL end up expelling them from the league.

Maybe they should have run tests more accurately, and actually done a background test on Dale before just shattering the fans, staff and players.

I hope that once we are up and running properly, we could maybe give Bury fans free entry so that they’ve got some football to watch. If not that, then I really do think we should have some sort of game that raises money for Bury. Football fans that are laughing, mocking or saying that Bury deserves this in any way, I really hope that your club never has to go through what they have – because it’s heartbreaking.

‘Bury must start again from the bottom. Not handed a lifeline! Other clubs will think they can do it otherwise’ Football fans react

The Football Manc Cave is looking at your reactions to the fact that Bury could make a return to League Two if plans go ahead…

Fans were devastated when Bury’s expulsion from the league was announced and thousands signed a petition to overturn the decision. The EFL didn’t help with the situation and now Paul Wilkinson and Bury MP, James Frith have spoken about plans to try and get their team into league two rather than lower league football.

James Frith had announced yesterday that he will submit plans to the EFL for this to happen next season and here are your reactions…

Personally, I can’t see the EFL allowing this and in terms of how things are supposed to go officially, it would be unfair to place Bury in League Two. Especially, when other teams are fighting to be there, however, the way that the EFL have handled the situations with the likes of Bolton and Bury, I think they should do something to help The Shakers now.

Most won’t agree but at the end of the day, the league should want their football teams to survive.

3 Things Football Ventures Have To Do Straight Away At Bolton Wanderers

I am so happy to be able to finally write something positive about Bolton Wanderers. The Football Manc Cave are exploring three things that new owners, Football Ventures need to do with the club.

It’s going to take a lot of time to sort absolutely everything from debts to players but it’s a start. A positive start. As a Bolton fan, I just want us to be playing consistent football, not having to call games off and making a start on rebuilding.

Bolton News reporter, Marc Iles tweeted his take on what should happen next:

Here’s my take…

Settle Debts & Pay Players

All Bolton fans know that we are in debt and there are players that are owed money from the club all over the show. It’s going to take a while to get everything completely finalised, there’s also going to be other issues that fans don’t know about and probably won’t ever find out about. However, these payments need to be settled so that we can start again. Current players need paying so that it proves to everyone that the deal is a good one and it will appeal more to new signings which we also need if our players are finally receiving their wages.

Sort Manager

We obviously need a new manager. I am actually gutted that this takeover has gone through only a week after Phil Parkinson left. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he is the answer for our long term plans. His style of football isn’t the best but he has stuck with us throughout everything when others would have walked away. I hope he comes back to the stadium to watch a game then we can say goodbye properly and thank him for his efforts.

Moving on, we can finally start talking about who should take the job now. In my opinion, we need Kevin Nolan. One of my favourite players growing up who I’ve met a few times. He has started his managerial career recently and would be the perfect option for us. He knows the ins and outs of the club, has friends still involved with us and has the respect from other clubs who he could ask for favours in terms of loans of players. I also think he would get the best out of the youngsters.

Season Tickets

Fans have been paying per match so far this year with the uncertainty of whether games would go ahead. Now we can finally think about buying season tickets. They will obviously have to be at a cheaper price now that fans have paid per match and they are being issued later in the season than planned.

We should also be offered reduced prices for the absolute hell we’ve had to deal with but that’s another issue. We should also give Bury fans free entry to our games. We could never ask Bury fans to think of switching their support but we could give them some football to watch for the time being. It would also bring us more bodies to fill the stadium.

Bury will not be the last time expelled from the EFL, here’s why…

Bury were expelled from the EFL earlier this week, following their takeover fallen through. The club had unpaid debts, and through poor ownership, were not able to pay them.

Unfortunately, this won’t be the last. I expect a spate of clubs to struggle in the coming years, why?

Getting new owners, is purely pot luck. Previous Wigan owner Dave Whelan sold the club to IEC. I wasn’t worried because I knew he wouldn’t see us sold down the river to the first potential buyer. He always wanted to sell to an ambitious consortium, that would have the money to see our progress, and hopefully reach the Premier League again.

The EFL simply need to change their criteria and background checks when allowing new owners to buy football clubs. Steve Dale should never have been allowed to buy Bury. He had no previous experience of running a football club, has never visited the town, refused to pay staff and wouldn’t accept an offer that would’ve kept the club going. Disgraceful.

The transfer market is just ridiculously inflated, which is forcing clubs to spend more they can afford, to stay in their respective division. They are gambling with millions of pounds, if the gamble goes wrong they suddenly find themselves in debt, struggling to run the club and pay staff, then it just spirals from there.

The gap in revenue between Premier League clubs and EFL clubs is astronomical. Man United was paying Alexis Sanchez up to £500,000 a week, while Bury needed £2.7 million to survive. That’s not right. I’m not saying United should’ve bailed them out, as I’m sure that’s not legal or would happen in other industries, but surely the EFL could fund these smaller clubs or put a cap on wages to minimise the ever-growing money gap.

From a Wigan Athletic fan to Bury fans

What a sad day for English football and the town of Bury, after The Shakers were expelled from the EFL following unpaid debts and poor ownership.

Bury was founded in 1885, 124 years of history, gone. Being a Wigan fan, it’s frightening. Our town isn’t much bigger than Bury, us, Bolton, Blackburn, Rochdale and Oldham – we’re all in the same boat.

Forget football for a second, their’s people’s jobs at stake. People that have mortgages, bills like all of us, and are relying on Bury FC for them jobs. It puts life into perspective, real working-class people need the club to live, not to just support on a Saturday afternoon.

The EFL is to blame. Steve Dale isn’t fit to run a sandwich shop, never mind a football club. He has killed that club and area, single-handedly and doesn’t sound in the slightest bit bothered. How he passed all of the checks and proved himself fit to run a football club, I will never know.

The whole town will be hurting for a long time, people will suffer, businesses and shops too. It’s the heart and soul of a working-class town. On a Saturday, it’s match day. People go to the pub before and after, pop into the newsagents for a paper on the way, buy a pie from the local butchers. The whole area suffers.

A team is for life

Fans have supported that club for life. Looked forward to going every week. All gone because of one man. Frightening and upsetting. Being a Wigan fan, I’m just grateful we have a club. I couldn’t imagine not having a side to support, they are my life, I think about the club every day. I’ve met friends for life and made memories forever following Wigan.

My thoughts go out to everyone who ever supported Bury, and I hope the local businesses and people rally to bring success and happiness back to the town.

Bury fans must try and envisage a future, no matter how difficult that may feel

It would be too easy to join the queue of people offering their condolences to Bury fans following their expulsion from the EFL this week. Instead, what is needed is a plan for the future, not just for Bury FC but for all the clubs who might find themselves in the same situation.

There was almost an inevitability to Bury’s expulsion from the league and Bolton’s extension of their extension. I don’t wish to suggest that Bolton were in a less perilous state than Bury, but if both clubs had been treated the same by the EFL and Bury had been allowed to play their fixtures. The situation might have panned out differently.

The people at the EFL meeting that took place after the 5pm deadline, must surely have been aware of the enormity of expelling Bolton Wanderers from the league given their rich history and long membership of English football.

That does not mean that losing Bury might soon be forgotten. However, there is a danger that the impact on the game may be less, given that the club will always be looked upon as a minor side who spent most of their time in the lower divisions.

Bury’s due diligence

It is possible that the EFL may want to see the back of this episode quickly and sweep the whole debacle under the carpet. Therefore, if there is one thing Bury fans can do, it is to keep the club in the limelight and demand an inquiry into how Steve Dale was allowed to pass a test of due diligence.

Consequently, it is imperative that Bury fans dust themselves off and plan for the future as soon as possible, no matter how difficult that might seem at present. There is a great deal of vitriol aimed at Dale on social media but that needs to be abandoned. The Poundland tycoon with his scant regard for the local community and the livelihoods of his employees, cannot harm the people of Bury any more. Forget him and hope that his long-overdue date in the dock is just around the corner.

Other clubs have started from scratch again and prospered – there is no reason why Bury can’t. Football has long been called The People’s Game. It’s time we took it back.

Bury FC handed extension!!

EFL STATEMENT: BURY FC

The EFL Board met this morning in regard to Bury FC.

Shortly before Friday’s 11.59pm Notice of Withdrawal deadline, the EFL received notification that an offer for the Club had been accepted and a request was submitted to extend for a further period in order to successfully conclude a sale.

The Board has fully considered the information that has been made available by C&N Sporting Risk and whilst no formal sale has been completed, despite reports to the contrary, enough credible information was presented to allow the Board to agree to work exclusively with the Club and C&N Sporting Risk over this Bank Holiday weekend in an attempt to finalise the change of control and achieve a positive outcome for Bury FC.

The EFL Board, however, remains firmly of the view that the League cannot be in a position whereby any more of the Club’s 2019/20 fixtures will be suspended due to the integrity of the competition, the impact on other clubs in the League and therefore has stated that matters must be concluded by 5pm on Tuesday 27 August 2019.

If in the event a successful outcome is not achieved by this point, then Bury FC’s share in the EFL will be withdrawn and its membership in the League will come to an end.

Debbie Jevans

Executive Chair Debbie Jevans, CBE, said: “The Board has considered the evidence presented and has determined, in a final effort to allow the Club the opportunity to survive, to grant an extension and work exclusively with the Club and C&N Sporting Risk to see if a takeover is possible.  

“No one wants to see a Club lose its place in the League and we will now work with the potential purchasers over the weekend and ahead of the Tuesday deadline in an attempt to find the solutions required for a sale to take place.”

‘Bought it for 1 quid, ruined it and now wants everyone else to bail him out’ Twitter reaction to Steve Dale asking for 2.7m from Bury fans and businesses by TONIGHT

From one extreme to another. How can one man destroy a football club like this? According to Talksport Bury owner Steve Dale, is now asking fans and local businesses to find £2.7 million by TONIGHT, to avoid the club from EFL expulsion. Extraordinary.

Bury have until midnight tonight, to agree to a deal with a new owner, otherwise, the club will be expelled. The Shakers are yet to play a match this season, after having their first six league fixtures cancelled.

Let’s see how Bury fans reacted to this shocking request…

‘Absolutely gutted. My first ever memories of football were at this place’ D-Day for Bury FC and it’s fans

Bury FC have had their first six games of the campaign postponed, and now they might face folding altogether…

The EFL has ordered Bury to prove that they show sufficient funding by 23:59 Friday 23 August 2019. The BBC reported that ex-director of the club handcuffed herself to a drainpipe outside Gigg Lane, pleading for help from investors and other North-West football clubs.

Bury fans and football fans across the country are torn up by how a lack of good ownership has killed and buried a 134-year-old establishment.

Upon the financial takeover of an EFL club, the EFL must first condone. Steve Dale has a long list of failed businesses but was still granted the ability to take over the club. Once again, he has destroyed what he’s touched.

The only way Bury can be saved is if Dale sells the club to a suitable investor who can also provide proof that they can adequately finance and maintain the club…

Social Media has been flooded with heart-wrenching stories and opinions from long-serving Bury fans about how the abandonment of their club will affect their lives.

Fans are also displeased with the EFL. They are aware that they have the power and ability to save the club.

Steve Dale famously bought the club for £1. Which means he would incur any of the withstanding debt that the club owed at the time. He purchased the club on the promise of improving the financial situation. Now, Dale is holding out for £2million for his ‘time and resources’, making the chances of finding an investor all the less likely.

We all want Bury to survive

Any true lover of the sport would never want to see a club fold due to poor ownership, regardless of their loyalties. The time, effort, joy, tears, money, love and life poured into the team you love all to be taken away.

The Football Manc Cave hopes to see Bury standing strong for another 134 years.

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